Turtle guard
Does anybody have any good techniques from Turtle guard that they could post?
Also, any books or videos out there on the topic you could recommend would be awesome! :D
Interesting..i only look for kimuras ,kneebars and sitouts from the turtle guard. I never intentionally stay in turtle for long. Sure would like to here some other options this is my most clueless posistion when it comes to offense. This and the X-guard.
I agree that I like to get out of Turtle ASAP however, if I can learn to be more offensive from the position I hope it will help me to be more rounded.
Does anybody have any good techniques from Turtle guard that they could post?Also, any books or videos out there on the topic you could recommend would be awesome! :D
google 'eduardo telles'. i remember watching someone play turtle guard during a competition and it was pretty cool to watch.
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leo viera shows how to regain guard from the turtle guard
Blood is nothing but red sweat
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kimura from turtle
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nick diaz does kneebar in a turtle transition
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eduardo Telles dvd set is great.
I remember someone on here mentioned a wrestling book. but dont know what it is.
A lot of people think about Telles when they talk about the turtle position, but I studied him pretty extensively a couple years ago and I'm not really a fan. He's definitely good, and he's got a couple good sweeps and concepts from there, but he likes to spend a lot of time there and bait people with the position. I agree with GotchaBack- I like to spend as little time there as possible and try not to end up there at all. That said, one really good guy to study from that position is Robson Moura. I'm mean, everything Robson shows is legit and he's one of the best pound for pound grapplers in the world, plus he's pretty innovative with the whole "turtle hook" thing. You can probably find some interesting stuff that you may never have seen before on his Jiu Jitsu Fusion DVD.
you will get choked with someone on your back. avoid getting there and i won't use this postion to bait people. also try a wrestling standup or a switch. you just can't stay there very long. granby rolls are always good. or tripod and try to get their head over yours, pull the crown of their head to the mat, then lunge forward to put your combined weight on their neck. this is one of my favorite defenese from the back, it almost always works.
twisting back in to guard or rolling out and trying to catch a toe hold or knee bar. every now and then, if there are no hooks set in, i can pull off an arm drag to get to north south. for some reason that seems to work well against strong wrestlers.
I wrote a couple articles under the Product Reviews section.
Eduardo Telles' TURTLE GUARD & OCTOPUS GUARD
Josh Russell's THE TURTLE GUARD
There are some Turtle Guard techniques scattered throughout other instructional DVDs, like Saulo Ribeiro's set.
You can start there to help you find reference materials.
Practiced escaping turtle position today in class. We used a wrestler's switch style movement to obtain the omoplata. Was really sweet.
I feel that this is a position that you can really surprise people with if you have some painful traps up your sleave. They at least get your opponent 'bugging' and create openings to escape and obtain a stronger defensive position.
i would like to see how that works.
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Hopefully this will paint you a better picture of the defense/ escape. Opponent is grabbing one of their wrists (wristlet) and hiding their elbows outside of your hips so that you cannot capture an arm and roll or sit out for a shoulder lock. Escapee grabs opponents elbow and wings it out to create space/ loosen up grip around waist. To defend the opponent from hopping their hooks in, the escapee/turtle will hook their foot on the opposite hip/ upper thigh of the opponent. For an easier reference this leg/ hook is on the same side as the hand/ arm that you are using to wing up the opponents elbow. From here you would raise your hips with your opposite hand, hook, and opposite foot and sit out while winging their elbow up for space. Movement is executed in one graceful sitout combined with an angled positioning of the body.
It was a really cool technique. It'll really compliment my other escapes, reversals and submissions from the turtle position.
Not to mention a wrestler's switch is an awesome defense to the turtle position when the opponent is attempting to jump or climb their hooks. I see the wrestler's switch utilized by a lot of MMA fighters, they love it. Most commonly I see it used as a defense to a rear bear hug/ suplex position. The movement can turn into a lot of nasty submissions if the opponent gets sloppy.
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Interesting..i only look for kimuras ,kneebars and sitouts from the turtle guard. I never intentionally stay in turtle for long. Sure would like to here some other options this is my most clueless posistion when it comes to offense. This and the X-guard.
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